Podcast Special: Kristie Darien (NASE) Post-Election Interview
Posted on | December 22, 2008 | 1 Comment
As promised last week — and just to demonstrate that I haven’t abandoned my subscribers completely during my usual annual hiatus — here’s a bit of a preview of microbusiness policy in 2009 by a real feet-on-the-ground: Kristie Darien, executive director of the National Association for the Self-Employed Legislative Office.
As I mentioned in the podcast, a lot has happened since this interview was recorded just a few days after Barack Obama was elected 44th President of the United States.
All things considered, it’s kind of silly to start complaining about him when he hasn’t even been sworn in yet. There are question marks about his choice for SBA Administrator and how in-touch she really is with small businesses (as opposed to entrepreneurial gazelles).
For that matter, I’m wondering how in touch Mr. Obama is when he keeps talking about jobs and wages (as opposed to work and income). In some ways, some of the languages he uses seems to indicate quite a bit of 30-year-old thinking.
More to the point, as I discussed with Kristie, the new Congress will be interesting to watch. “Ever time there’s an election, it’s a whole new ball game,” and since Committee assignments haven’t happened yet, we don’t know what we’re working with yet.
Plenty of time to really start complaining down the road, right?
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Dawn Rivers Baker, aka The Journal Blogger, is the editor and publisher of The MicroEnterprise Journal, and the self-proclaimed Socrates of the small business blogosphere. See her 



December 22nd, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
I would also like to bring a very shocking and compelling bit of information that applies to the current economic crisis: Foreclosures and Job Loss.
I am Professor Samuel D. Bornstein, and I testified before the Committee on April 16, 2008. I testified on the topic, “The Impact of the Credit Crunch on Small Business”. I testified that there was a connection between small business and the Subprime Mortgage Crisis and the “toxic” mortgage crisis. In order to confirm my research, I enlisted the aid of the National Association for the Self-Employed (NASE) who ran a survey for its national membership.
The results of the NASE survey provides stunning and compelling evidence that the Self-Employed and Micro-Businesses have a significant portion of the “toxic” mortgages and hold the key to a solution to the Mortgage Foreclosure Crisis. The results of this survey highlight the fact that small business should be addressed to mitigate the foreclosures and losses on the defaulting “Troubled Assets” in the TARP and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
This topic of the 2nd Wave of Foreclosures has been recognized by the mainstream media.
On Sunday, 12/14/08, CBS 60 Minutes aired a segment “The Mortgage Meltdown”.
Scott Pelley’s piece on the 2nd Wave of Foreclosures overlooked a critical fact.
The segment missed the fact that this next wave of Foreclosures in 2009 Will Take Self-Employed and Smaller Businesses who have these TOXIC mortgages. In fact, ALT-A, Option ARMS, Interest-Only, the TOXIC Mortgages that are considered the “Troubled” assets in TARP were specifically marketed to the self-employed who fell prey to them.
The upcoming defaults on these risky “Toxic Mortgages” will result in an increase in foreclosures. But worse, once these small businesses fail, the resulting loss of jobs will cause millions to add to the ranks of the unemployed. Note that self-employed business owners (16.2 million according to the SBA) employ between 1-10 employees.
The NASE survey at http://www.nase.org , was the first to provide compelling evidence of small business involvement in the upcoming toxic mortgage crisis. The survey was created by Prof. Samuel D. Bornstein and Jung I. Song, CPA of BornsteinSong Consultants in Oakhurst,NJ,and was conducted by the National Association for the Self-Employed (NASE) which issued a Press Release on November 21, 2008.
According to this survey, it is estimated that 3,709,800 small business owners hold Alt-A and other toxic mortgages, and 1,279,800 are already delinquent as they have missed one to three or more monthly mortgage payments at mid-November, before the expected Resets that are scheduled to begin in 4th Quarter 2008 through 2012.
These small business owners will be at-risk of payment shock and default as their monthly mortgage payments skyrocket. Small business owners were especially targeted for these Alt-A loans which required little or no documentation of income which appealed to many small business owners who previously were unable to qualify.
The resulting defaults will be the cause of the upcoming second tsunami wave of foreclosures that will dwarf the subprime crisis and will take many homeowners and small business owners.
I would be happy to discuss the implications of the NASE Survey, since I created it and NASE ran it to its national membership (250,000). See the NASE website http://www.nase.org under NASE NEWS for the Toxic Mortgage Survey.